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PROP BET KEYS
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Table Limits
Before we begin, we need to
touch on table limits. For proposition bets the minimum is usually the smallest denomination check in use at the table and the maximum is computed based on an arbitrary maximum payoff. For instance, the maximum payoff might be 3 times the posted maximum bet. So on a table with a posted $1000 maximum bet, the maximum payoff would be $3000. Therefore on a bet like the Twelve, which pays 30 to 1, you could bet a maximum of $100. Don't worry about figuring this out - just ask one of the crew how much you can bet.
All casinos should give you a policy and procedure manual that would have your
limits within.
The almighty
'first nine' bets
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16 for 1
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1 = 16 |
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2 = 32 |
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3 = 48 |
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4 = 64 |
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5 = 80 |
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6
= 96 |
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7 = 112 |
| 8 = 128 |
| 9 = 144 |
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31 for 1
| 1 = 31 |
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2 = 62 |
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3 = 93 |
| 4 = 124 |
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5 = 155 |
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6 = 186 |
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7 = 217 |
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8 = 248 |
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9 = 279 |
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BASIC 'KEYS'
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Paying 31 times =
bet x 3 add zero add
bet
Example:
$6 bet straight up on 2 or 12
bet
($6) x 3 =18, add zero = $180+$6 bet=186
More
examples below
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Paying 16 times =
3 to 2 odds (1-
1/2 times), add
zero, add bet
Example:
$6 bet straight up on 3 or 11
$6
bet x 1-1/2 = 9, add zero = 90 add $6 bet = 96
More
examples below
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Learn
to move a decimal point
16 for 1
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10 = 160 |
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20 = 320 |
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30 = 480 |
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40 = 640 |
| 50 =
800 |
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60
= 960 |
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70 = 1120 |
| 80 =
1280 |
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90 = 1440 |
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Learn
to move a decimal point
31 for 1
| 10 = 310 |
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20 = 620 |
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30 = 930 |
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40 = 1240 |
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50 = 1550 |
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60 = 1860 |
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70 = 2170 |
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80 = 2480 |
| 90 = 2790 |
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In fact you
can get away with just memorizing the first five bets. Most players (90%) will
bet $1,2,3,4 or $5 or increments thereof, then go directly to betting $10.
VERY
FEW PLAYERS BET $6 ,7, 8,or $9
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16
for 1
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1 =
16 |
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2 =
32 |
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3 =
48 |
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4 =
64 |
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5 =
80 |
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6 =
96 |
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7 =
112 |
| 8
= 128 |
| 9
= 144 |
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31 for 1
| 1 = 31 |
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2 = 62 |
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3 = 93 |
| 4 = 124 |
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5 = 155 |
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6 = 186 |
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7 = 217 |
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8 = 248 |
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9 = 279 |
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C &
E
Craps wins = 3x
bet Eleven wins = 7x bet
BEWARE, THE BET
MUST BE HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT ON BOTH SIDES
Let's say the
player bets a $2 C&E, you know you have $1 on each bet, if 2, 3 or 12 roll
on the dice, the player wins $8 minus the $2 bet = $6 and "still up
to win again." (3x $2 bet) If the 'yo 11 rolls, player wins $16
minus the $2 bet = 14 and "still up to win again"(7x $2 bet)
$5 C&E is
$2.50 on each side. If craps win you have 2.50 x 8 = 20 - 5 = 15 or 3 times
the bet. If eleven wins you have 2.50 x 16 = 40 minus the $5 bet = 35 or
7 x the bet (7x5=35)
In addition,
ANY BET SPLIT WITH A 16 FOR 1 PAYOFF USES THE SAME 'KEY' (7X BET)
SUCH AS 11/12
SPLIT OR 2/3
SPLIT
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If your working with 30 for
1 and 15 for 1 .....craps = x3 Eleven = x 6
1/2 |
HIGH / LOW
Let's say the player bets a $20
hi/low. You know he has $10 on each side of the bet, and each side pays x 31. Therefore $310 minus the $20 bet = $290. The
"key" is thinking of a $20 place bet on 5 or 9 that pays $28, then add
a zero (280) then add half the hi/low bet (10)........280 +10 = 290. (and
still "up to win again)
| The
hi/low bet |
5/9
place bet= |
add
zero |
add
half hi/low bet |
=PAYOFF |
| $5 |
$7 |
$70 |
+$
2.50 |
=$
72.50 |
| 15 |
21 |
210 |
+7.50 |
=217.50 |
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25 |
35 |
350 |
+12.50 |
=362.50 |
| 50 |
70 |
700 |
+25.00 |
=725.00 |
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150 |
210 |
2100 |
+75.00 |
=2175.00 |
Remember, this 'key' will work
with any prop bet split evenly with 2 or 12 such as 11/12 split or 2/3 split
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If your working with 30 for 1
and 15 for 1 Use the same key
WITHOUT ADDING HALF THE BET
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DEALERS RESPOND TO PROP
BET KEYS CLICK HERE
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16 for 1
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1 = 16 |
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2 = 32 |
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3 = 48 |
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4 = 64 |
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5 = 80 |
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6
= 96 |
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7 = 112 |
| 8 = 128 |
| 9 = 144 |
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31 for 1
| 1 = 31 |
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2 = 62 |
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3 = 93 |
| 4 = 124 |
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5 = 155 |
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6 = 186 |
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7 = 217 |
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8 = 248 |
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9 = 279 |
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Horn High Bets
Occasionally you'll hear someone bet a Horn High 2 (3, 11, or 12). This means they want the bet divided into 4 non-fractional parts with any remainder added to the number called. So a $5 Horn High 12 would mean: bet $1 each on 2, 3, and 11, and $2 on 12.
| HORN
HIGH
TWELVE:
11-5-2
Twelve rolls=11
bet plus $ amount on 12
Aces roll=5
x bet plus $ amount on aces
3
or 11 roll= 2
x bet
plus $ amount on 3 or 11
11-5-2
12
rolls - example: Let's say the
player bets $5 horn hi 12, you have a $4 horn
bet plus an extra dollar on twelve. If 12 wins you have $2 on it,
therefore 31 x 2 = 62 minus the $5 bet equals $57.(still up to win
again) or
5
X 11 =55
plus the $2
on twelve =
$57
HORN HI
12 - 12 ROLLS (X11+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
11 |
+ $
ON
12 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
165 |
+6 |
=171 |
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25 |
275 |
+10 |
=285 |
| 60 |
660 |
+24 |
=684 |
Aces roll
Player
bets $5 horn high twelve. It's the same bet as above only
this time the aces roll. You only have a dollar on aces, therefore 31 x 1
= 31 minus the $5 bet = $26. (still up to win again)
5
x 5 (25) + 1 = $26
*****
HORN HI
12 - ACES ROLL (X5+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X 5 |
+ $
ON
2 |
PAYOFF |
| 15 |
75 |
+3 |
= 78 |
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25 |
125 |
+5 |
=130 |
| 60 |
300 |
+12 |
=312 |
3 or 11
roll example:
Player bets the same "$5 horn high 12" again, you have a
$4 horn bet with an extra dollar on 12. This time 3 or 11 roll. Now they
both pay 16 for 1, you have one dollar on each therefore 1 x 16 = 16
minus the $5 bet = $11 (still up to win) or
2 x 5 = 10 +1 =$11
*****
HORN
HI 12 - ACE-DEUCE OR ELEVEN ROLL (X2+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
2 |
+ $
ON
3/11 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
30 |
+3 |
=33 |
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25 |
50 |
+5 |
=55 |
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60 |
120 |
+12 |
+132 |
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HORN
HIGH
ACES:
11-5-2
Aces roll=11
x bet plus $ amount on 2
Twelve rolls=5
x bet plus $ amount on 12
3
or 11 roll: 2 x bet
plus $ amount on 3 or 11
11-5-2
Aces
roll - example: Let's say the
player bets $5 horn hi aces, you have a $4 horn bet
plus an extra dollar on aces. If aces wins you have $2 on it,
therefore 31 x 2 = 62 minus the $5 bet equals $57.(still up to win
again) or
5
X 11 =55
plus the $2
on aces =
$57
HORN HI
ACES - ACES ROLL (X11+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
11 |
+$
ON 2 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
165 |
+6 |
= 171 |
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25 |
275 |
+10 |
= 285 |
| 60 |
660 |
+24 |
=
684 |
Twelve
rolls Player
bets $5 horn high aces. It's the same bet as above only
this time the 12 rolls. You only have a dollar on 12, therefore 31 x 1 =
31 minus the $5 bet = $26. (still up to win again)
5
x 5 (25) + 1 = $26
*****
HORN HI
ACES - 12 ROLLS (X5+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
5 |
+ $
ON 12 |
PAYOFF |
| 15 |
75 |
+3 |
=78 |
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25 |
125 |
+5 |
=130 |
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60 |
300 |
+12 |
=312 |
3 or 11
roll example:
Player bets the same "$5 horn high aces" again, you have
a $4 horn bet with an extra dollar on aces. This time 3 or 11 roll. Now
they both pay 16 for 1, you have one dollar on each therefore 1 x 16
= 16 minus the $5 bet = $11 (still up to win) or
2 x 5 =10+1 = $11
*****
HORN HI
ACES - ACE-DEUCE OR ELEVEN ROLL (X2+)
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
2 |
+ $
ON
3/11 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
30 |
+3 |
= 33 |
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25 |
50 |
+ 5 |
=55 |
| 60 |
120 |
+12 |
=132 |
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If your working with 30 for 1
and 15 for 1 Use the same keys
WITHOUT ADDING THE BET
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Confused yet?................GOOD!
WITH
KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR FIRST NINE PROP
BETS AND PAYOFFS, YOU CAN PAY ANY BET WITHOUT THE AID OF A
PUSSY 'KEY'
DEALERS
RESPOND TO PROP BET KEYS CLICK HERE
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HORN
HIGH
'YO
5-2 key
Eleven, Aces or Twelve
roll
equals
5
x bet plus dollar amount on the number that rolled
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Ace deuce rolls
equals 2
x bet
plus dollar amount on ace deuce
5-2 key
*****
11 rolls
- example: Let's say the player bets " $5 horn hi 11", you
have a $4 horn bet plus an extra dollar on eleven. If 11 wins you have $2
on it, therefore 16 x 2 = 32 minus the $5 bet equals $27.(still up
to win again) or
5
x bet
plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled
5
X 5 = 25
plus the
$2 on 11
= $27
*****
HORN HI
'YO' - Eleven rolls =
X5 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X 5 |
+ $
ON 11 |
PAYOFF |
| 15 |
75 |
+ 6 |
= 81 |
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25 |
125 |
+10 |
= 135 |
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60 |
300 |
+24 |
+ 324 |
2 or
12 rolls - example: Let's say the
player bets " $5 horn hi 11", you have a $4 horn
bet plus an extra dollar on eleven. If 2 or 12 wins you have $1 on it,
therefore 31 x 1 = 31 minus the $5 bet equals $26.(still up to win
again) or
5
x bet plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled
5
X 5 = 25
plus the
$1 on 2 or 12
= $26
*****
HORN HI
'YO - 2 or 12 rolls =
X5 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X 5 |
+$
on 2-12 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
75 |
+ 3 |
= 78 |
| 25 |
125 |
+ 5 |
= 130 |
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60 |
300 |
+ 12 |
= 312 |
Ace Deuce
rolls example:
Player bets the same "$5 horn high 11" again, you have a
$4 horn bet with an extra dollar on 11. This time the 3 rolls. Now
it pays 16 for 1, you have one dollar on it therefore 1 x 16 = 16
minus the $5 bet = $11 (still up to win) or
2 x bet
plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled (3)
2 X 5 =
10
plus the
$1 on the ace deuce
= $11
2 x 5=10+1=$11
*****
HORN
HI 11 - ACE-DEUCE ROLLS = x2 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
2 |
+ $
ON
3 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
30 |
+
3 |
= 33 |
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25 |
50 |
+
5 |
= 55 |
| 60 |
120 |
+
12 |
= 132 |
Remember:
HORN
HIGH
'YO
5-2 key
Eleven, Aces or Twelve
roll
equals
5
x bet plus dollar amount on the number that rolled
*****
Ace deuce rolls
equals 2
x bet
plus dollar amount on ace deuce
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HORN
HIGH
ACE-DEUCE
5-2 key
Ace deuce
rolls
equals
5
x bet plus dollar amount on the number that rolled
*****
Eleven rolls
equals 2
x bet
plus dollar amount on ace deuce
5-2 key
*****
3 rolls - example: Let's say the
player bets " $5 horn hi ace deuce", you have a $4 horn
bet plus an extra dollar on ace deuce. If 3 wins you have $2 on it,
therefore 16 x 2 = 32 minus the $5 bet equals $27.(still up to win
again) or
5
x bet
plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled
5
X 5 = 25
plus the
$2 on ace
= $27
*****
HORN HI
'ACE DEUCE' - Eleven rolls =
X5 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X 5 |
+ $
ON 3 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
75 |
+6 |
=81 |
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25 |
125 |
+10 |
=135 |
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60 |
300 |
+24 |
=324 |
2 or
12
rolls - example: Let's say the
player bets " $5 horn hi 11", you have a $4 horn
bet plus an extra dollar on eleven. If 2 or 12 wins you have $1 on it,
therefore 31 x 1 = 31 minus the $5 bet equals $26.(still up to win
again) or
5
x bet plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled
5
X 5 = 25
plus the
$1 on 2 or 12
= $26
*****
HORN HI
'ACE DEUCE'- 2 or 12 rolls =
X5 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X 5 |
+$
on 2-12 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
75 |
+3 |
= 78 |
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25 |
125 |
+5 |
= 130 |
| 60 |
300 |
+12 |
= 312 |
Eleven
rolls example:
Player bets the same "$5 horn high 11" again, you have a
$4 horn bet with an extra dollar on ace deuce. This time the 11 rolls. Now
it pays 16 for 1, you have one dollar on it therefore 1 x 16 = 16
minus the $5 bet = $11 (still up to win) or
2
x bet
plus dollar
amount on the number that rolled (3)
2
X 5 = 10
plus the
$1 on the ace deuce
= $11
2 x 5=10+1=$11
*****
HORN
HI 'ACE DEUCE' - ELEVEN ROLLS = x2 plus
| AMOUNT
BET |
X
2 |
+ $
ON
11 |
PAYOFF |
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15 |
30 |
+3 |
= 33 |
| 25 |
50 |
+ 5 |
= 55 |
| 60 |
120 |
+12 |
= 132 |
Remember:
HORN
HIGH
ACE-DEUCE
5-2 key
Ace deuce
equals
5
x bet plus dollar amount on the number that rolled
*****
Eleven rolls
equals 2
x bet
plus dollar amount on ace deuce
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If your working with 30 for 1
and 15 for 1 Use the same keys
WITHOUT ADDING THE BET
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Confused yet?................GOOD!
WITH
KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR FIRST NINE PROP
BETS AND PAYOFFS, YOU CAN PAY ANY BET
WITHOUT THE AID OF A 'KEY'
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16
for 1
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1 =
16 |
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2 =
32 |
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3 =
48 |
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4 =
64 |
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5 =
80 |
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6 =
96 |
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7 =
112 |
| 8
= 128 |
| 9
= 144 |
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31 for 1
| 1 = 31 |
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2 = 62 |
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3 = 93 |
| 4 = 124 |
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5 = 155 |
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6 = 186 |
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7 = 217 |
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8 = 248 |
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9 = 279 |
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DEALERS RESPOND TO PROP
BET KEYS CLICK HERE
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Whirl Bets
Also use the
5-2 key
Aces or Twelve roll
equals
5
x bet plus dollar amount on the number that rolled
___________
Ace deuce or Eleven rolls
equals 2
x bet
plus dollar amount on number that
rolled
2 or 12 = 5x plus bet
3 or 11 = 2x plus bet
7 = PUSH
Example : $15 whirl bet 2
or 12 roll:
15 x 5 = 75 + 3 = 78
3 or 11 roll:
15 x 2 = 30 + 3 = 33
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and 15 for 1 Use the same key
WITHOUT ADDING HALF THE BET
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Three way
craps
2 or 12 roll = 9x bet
plus amount on bet
Ace deuce rolls = 4 x bet
plus amount on bet
Example: $12
three way craps
2 or 12
roll:
12 x 9 = 108
+ 4 = 112
3 rolls:
12 x 4 = 48
+ 4 = 52
If your working with 30 for
1 and 15 for 1 Use the same keys
WITHOUT ADDING THE BET
WITH
KNOWLEDGE OF YOUR FIRST NINE PROP
BETS AND PAYOFFS, YOU CAN PAY ANY BET WITHOUT THE AID OF THIS STUPID 'KEY'
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Horn bets
Here's
another stupid key
The
low side as we call
it is the 16 for 1
payoff (3 & 11)
The high
side is
considered 31
for 1 (2 & 12)
Low side
= 3 x bet
High side
= 7 x bet less 1/4
Example:
$4 horn
bet - 3 or 11 rolls
4 x 3
= 12 (16- 4 = 12)
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Example:
$4 horn
bet - 2 or 12 roll
4 x 7
- 1 = 27
4 x 7
= 28, less 1/4
of $4 horn bet ($1) = 27
If your working with 30 for
1 and 15 for 1
Low side = 3 x bet less 1/4
High side = 6 1/2 x bet
Breakage Horn Bets
Some casinos will allow a
breakage prop bet, meaning the player bet an incorrect unit that can't be
paid to the penny.(doller game)
Example: a $5 horn bet
divided by 4 = $1.25 on each number
If the low side hits, = $5 x
3 = $15, the player is safe
however if the high side
hits 1.25 x 31 = 38.75 (-$5 bet) = 33.75
player gets $33 instead of
33.75
Remedy?
Absolutely! That's why I'm here
Low side
payoffs on any horn bet = 3 x bet
Breakage
or not
High side
breakage payoffs 31 for 1
$5
= 33
10
= 67
15
= 101
25
= 168
50
= 337
75
= ???
Stop
right here, any moron that doesn't ask for
a
nickel to make this an $80 horn should be shot!
If your working with 30 for
1 and 15 for 1
Low side = 3 x bet less 1/4
High side = 6 1/2 x bet |
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The bottom line
You can probably get away with
knowledge of your
first five bets as explained above.
knowing the chart below will
save you some time
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16 for 1
25 = 400
50 = 800
75 = 1200 |
31 for 1
25 = 775
50 = 1550
75 = 2325 |
Do I use keys?
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