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CALCULATING PLACE BETS

7:6    7:5    9:5

 

These bets are for players who want quick action and can't stand to see those precious point numbers being rolled without having them covered. Although they're popular bets and certainly better than proposition bets, they're not the best bets you can make. The house exacts its percentage on them by paying off at less than true odds. Here are the payoffs:

Number  Payoff True Odds  House PC
4 & 10 9 to 5  2 to 1  6.67%
5 & 9 7 to 5  3 to 2 4.00%
6 & 8 7 to 6  6 to 5     1.52%


As you can see, the lowest house percentage Place bets are on the 6 and 8 and are almost as good as flat bets on the Pass Line. The others aren't so great but can be improved by making buying bets instead. In order to take advantage of the odds you'll need to make bets on the 6 and 8 in increments of 6, and on the 4, 5, 9, and 10 in increments of 5. 

Place bets can be put up or taken down at any time. They're also automatically OFF (or not working) on the come-out roll, although they can be called ON or OFF at anytime if desired.

The 5, 6, 8, and 9 are referred to as the inside numbers, while the 4, 5, 9, and 10 are referred to as the outside numbers (yes, they overlap). Someone telling the dealer he would like to bet all the numbers would be betting across.
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Paying place bets on point 6 or 8 

@ 7:6

The chart to the right will enable you to pay any place bet at 7 to 6 odds. The player will bet in increments of 6 to win 7

The chart's to the right are what I call "the first nine"

Here's how it works. First , we move a decimal point around a little.

Your ability to break a bet down will be imperative.

6 pays 7, thus 60=70, 600=700

12 pays 14, thus 120=140, 1200=1400

18 pays 21, thus 180=210, 1800=2100

24 pays 28, thus 240=280, 2400=2800

30 pays 35, 300=350..............

36 pays 42, 360=420..............

42 pays 49, 420=490..............

48 pays 56, 480=560..............

54 pays 63, 540=630..............

 

7 to 6

  6 = 7

12 = 14

18 = 21

24 = 28

30 = 35

36 = 42

42 = 49

48 = 56

54 = 63

Key bets to know :

90 =105

Within you have a $60 bet and a $30 bet 

60=70, 30=35 (70+35=105)

150 = 175 

Within you have a $120 bet and a $30 bet 

 120=140, 30=35 (140+35=175)

450 = 525

Within you have a $420 bet and a $30 bet 

 420=490, 30=35 (490+35=525)

(One could look at a $300 bet and $150)

Examples of breaking a bet down :

78 = 91

Within you have a $60 bet and a $18 bet

(60=70, 18=21 -  70+21=91)

192 = 224

Within you have a $180 bet and a $12 bet

(180=210, 12=14 -  210+14=224)

210 = 245

Within you have a $180 bet and a $30 bet

(180=210, 30=35 - 210+35=245)

270 = 315

Within you have a $240 bet and a $30 bet

(240=280, 30=35 - 280+35=315)

330 = 385

Within you have a $300 bet and a $30 bet

(300=350, 30=35 - 350+35=385)

510 = 595

Within you have a $480 bet and a $30 bet

(480=560, 30=35 - 560+35=595)

570 = 665

Within you have a $540 bet and a $30 bet

(540=630, 30=35 - 630+35=665)

 

7 to 6

  6 = 7

12 = 14

18 = 21

24 = 28

30 = 35

36 = 42

42 = 49

48 = 56

54 = 63

 

7 to 6

  6 = 7

12 = 14

18 = 21

24 = 28

30 = 35

36 = 42

42 = 49

48 = 56

54 = 63

 

7 to 6

  6 = 7

12 = 14

18 = 21

24 = 28

30 = 35

36 = 42

42 = 49

48 = 56

54 = 63

 

7 to 6

  6 = 7

12 = 14

18 = 21

24 = 28

30 = 35

36 = 42

42 = 49

48 = 56

54 = 63

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Breakage bets 

From time to time players make breakage bets on 6 or 8. Remember this : 

There are only 3 things a tourist cares about

  1. Placing a bet on the 6 and (or) 8

   2. Winning money when 6 or 8 rolls

3. Where is the cocktail waitress?

It's as simple as that. Sometimes a dealer try's to "help" the player by coaching them into a proper bet, more often than not the player won't pay that much attention anyway. If a player wants to bet $10 on 6 or 8 or perhaps $25 or $50 - let them - If they ask the proper increments on the bet, by all means tell them. If they don't ask - 

DEAL WITH IT!

 

Breakage payoffs you'll need to know. Below are bets that you will see (dollar game)

10 pays 11

The $6 within pays $7 the remaining $4 pays even Money

15 pays 17

The $12 within pays $14 the remaining $3 pays even Money

20 pays 23

    The $18 within pays $21 the remaining $2 pays even Money 

25 pays 29

     The $24 within pays $28 the remaining $1 pays even Money

50 pays 58

    The $48 within pays $56 the remaining $2 pays even Money

75 pays 87

    The $60 within pays $70 now you have $15 left, the $12 within pays $14 the remaining $3 pays even Money, You should try to remember that $15 pays $17

100 pays 116

The $90 within pays $105 the remaining $10 pays $11 right?

200 pays 233

The $180 within pays $210 the remaining $20 pays $23 

500 pays 583

The $480 within pays $560 the remaining $20 pays $23 

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Paying place bets on point 5 or 9

@ 7:5

The chart to the right will enable you to pay any place bet at 7 to 5 odds. 

Your ability to break a bet down will be imperative.

Example :

5=7,  thus 50=70,  500=700

10=14,  thus 100=140,  1000=1400

15=21,  thus 150=210, 1500=2100

20=28,  200 =280.......

25=35,  250=350........

30=42,  350=420........

35=49,  350=490........

40=56,  400=560........

45=63,  450=630........

Key bets to know : 

75=105 

Within you have a $50 bet and a $25 bet 

50=70, 25=35 (70+35=105)

125=175 

Within you have a 100 bet and a $25 bet 

 100=140, 25=35 (140+35=175)

375=525 

Within you have a 350 bet and a $25 bet 

 350=490, 25=35 (490+35=525)

Examples of breaking a bet down :

60=84 

Within you have a $50 bet and a $10 bet

(50=70, 10=14 ,  70+14=84)

90=126 

 Within the $90 you have a $50 bet and a $40 bet

(50=70, 40=56,  70+56=126)

Perhaps one could look at two $45 bets within $90 each paying $63

 

Lets try some more shall we?

115=161

Within the $115 you have a $100 bet and a $15 bet

(100=140, 15=21 ,  140+21=161)

175=245

Within the $175 you have a $150 bet and a $25 bet

(150=210, 25=35 ,  210+35=245)

225=315

Within the $225 you have a $200 bet and a $25 bet

(200=280, 25=35 ,  280+35=315)

275=385

Within the $275 you have a $250 bet and a $25 bet

(250=350, 25=35 ,  350+35=385)

650=910

Within the $650 you have a $500 bet and a $150 bet

(500=700, 150=210 ,  700+210=910)

800=1120

Within the $800 you have a $500 bet and a $300 bet

(500=700, 300=420 ,  700+420=1120)

1200=1680

Within the $1200 you have a $1000 bet and a $200 bet

(1000=1400, 200=280 ,  1400+280=1680)

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7to5

5 = 7

10 = 14

15 = 21

20 = 28

25 = 35

30 = 42

35 = 49

40 = 56

45 = 63

 

 

7to5

5 = 7

10 = 14

15 = 21

20 = 28

25 = 35

30 = 42

35 = 49

40 = 56

45 = 63

 

 

7to5

5 = 7

10 = 14

15 = 21

20 = 28

25 = 35

30 = 42

35 = 49

40 = 56

45 = 63

 

 

 

7to5

5 = 7

10 = 14

15 = 21

20 = 28

25 = 35

30 = 42

35 = 49

40 = 56

45 = 63

 

 

 

7to5

5 = 7

10 = 14

15 = 21

20 = 28

25 = 35

30 = 42

35 = 49

40 = 56

45 = 63

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Paying the place bet on point 4 or 10

9 to 5

And the almighty 'buy' bet

Place bets on the 4 and 10 pay 9 to 5 odds, meaning bet 5 win 9

This should only occur with three primary bets :

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5 pays 9

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10 pays 18

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15 pays 27

From this point on each bet on point 4 or 10 should be a 

'BUY BET'


A Buy bet is a standing bet with the dice that can be placed on any of the point numbers 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10 at anytime, 

however only recommended on 4 and 10.  

The bet is for the chosen number and against the 7. 

1 of  3 things can happen with this bet:

1) The selected number is rolled and the bet wins.
2) A 7 is rolled and the bet loses.
3) Any other number is rolled and the bet neither wins nor loses but rolling continues.

A Buy bet is similar to a Place bet except that you pay a 5% vig up-front in exchange for receiving a true payoff if it wins. The vig is figured on the amount wagered. For example, if you wanted to make a $20 Buy bet on the number 4, you'd put down $21 in the Come area and tell the dealer "Buy the 4". He or she will move $20 to the number 4 point box and place a BUY button on top it. The extra $1 (5% of $20) is the vig for the house. The result is that you'll win $40 (2 to 1) instead of $36 (9 to 5). If you do win and want to keep your Buy bet up, you'll have to pay the dealer another vig. The vig is returned if you remove the bet before it wins or loses.

Depending on how much you bet, the vig may work out to a fractional amount. If this fractional amount is not fully payable with any of the available checks, then the vig is rounded off. Generally, when the vig amount falls halfway or less between two payable amounts, the vig is rounded down, otherwise it's rounded up. So at a table where the smallest checks are $1, the vig will be rounded down on fractions of .50 or less and rounded up otherwise. e.g. You could Buy a bet for $50 and pay only $2 vig even though mathematically the vig comes out to $2.50. However, if you made two $50 Buy bets at the same time, you'd be charged $5 and not $4 for your total action. Even if you didn't make both bets at the same time, some casinos would charge you the extra $1 when you made the second bet, and some would not. Obviously those that don't collect the extra buck are being a bit more generous. There are some casinos that are even more generous by only charging a vig on those bets that you win. This lowers the house advantage even more and makes the Buy a much better bet. The point to remember is that each casino handles their vigs a little differently.



Number Payoff PC if all bets are charged PC if only winning bets are charged
4 & 10   2 to 1     4.76%    1.64%
5 & 9     3 to 2     4.76%    1.96%
6 & 8     6 to 5     4.76%    2.22%
Buy bets, like Place bets, are automatically OFF on the come-out roll unless you call them ON. They can be called ON or OFF, as well as put up, taken down, increased, or decreased (with vig adjustments) at any time.

Buy bets do not make sense for the 6 or 8, and generally not the 5 or 9 

But for the 4 and the 10 they do make sense and should be utilized instead of Place bets. 
When you make a Buy bet, you're taking odds which is the exact opposite of a Lay bet where you're laying odds.

Calculating 'breakage vig' on point 4 or 10 dollar game

$25 = $1 vig

$50 = $2 vig

$75 = $4 vig

Each $100 = $5 vig

Any amount in between such as a $35 or a $65 bet shall be box person's discretion

Use the above simple formula with $25 increment bets.

Example :

$125 = $6 vig (5 + 1)

$350 = $17 vig (15 +2)

Remember each $100 wagered shall be charged a $5 vig. (5%)

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