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El Cortez pit manager Billy Cheung
watches.
One third of
the daily messages in my inbox will be someone asking
me for advice on all kinds of issues and problems that one encounters as they
are learning or entering the casino business. As I mentioned in the introduction
page of the site...
I'm NOT an
expert!
On the
other hand, I have yet to meet one. Everyone in this business has their own
opinion on what is right and wrong about dealing craps. In fact you can't even
get two craps dealers to agree on anything related to dealing the game. Just
because I'm a casino games instructor doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable than
the next guy. Anyone that has been in the business for a couple of years can
teach students how to deal casino craps. The only prerequisites you would need
is to have is a tremendous amount of patience and a good sense of humor. This is not
rocket science we're talking about here. What I will try to do is give you
an opinion. I will answer the most common questions you have and with some luck
you may have a better perspective on some issues and of course I in turn will have a smaller mail box.
My most important opinion is that you should take pride in what you do. You should try to be
the best at what you do. If you are a student in a dealing school you should try
to learn to the best of your ability. If you are a break-in dealer and you feel you
are not the best dealer in the casino then try to be the best 'break-in
dealer'.
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"I'm a
break in craps dealer here in Las Vegas and I'm having second thoughts about
this game. If all the dealers split the tips why should I or anyone else go
through this bullshit of learning craps when blackjack is so much easier?
And another thing, the BJ students get to break in at casinos such as the
Gold Coast and all the craps dealers must go downtown. They learned an easy
game and make more money than we do!!!!"
Believe it or
not Blackjack is not as easy as it looks. It's just as stressful for BJ dealers
and craps dealers alike. There are very few good BJ dealers. But that's
another story. Major strip resorts want multi game dealers. Most resorts have no
problem teaching a craps dealer how to deal on live card games but are very reluctant
on teaching craps in a casino for obvious reasons. Dealing dice is not the
hardest game to deal, it is only the hardest game to learn. What that really
means is this, pay the price of learning craps first and each and every card
game will be easy to learn in the future. Most agree that it is less taxing to
"cross train" craps dealers than card dealers. Most agree that craps dealers only need to know multi
deck shoe BJ anyway. Don't be discouraged, learn dice and learn to deal
well. Learn to deal shoe BJ at the same time and invariably everything will fall
into place just as you want. A good craps dealer can always find employment
faster than a dealer that only deals blackjack. Blackjack dealers are a dime a dozen.
Besides, you'll find out soon enough that dealing dice is the only fun game
to deal anyway.
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Question
for you Scott. A player has the four and ten bought for
fifty each- one of them hits. He tells you to press both to $100. Does he
owe $7 or $8 for the vig? My thought is- $5 for the one that hit, and since
the other now warrants a five dollar vig, two of which are already paid
for... the vig should be eight. Right? I was told by my box that since they
were paid for separately, the player doesn't owe the extra dollar, but since
when does the house give commission on twenty bucks free of charge?
Apparently you must
take the vig 'up front'
therefore in your case the answer is indeed $7 only because the dice had rolled
(the transaction is over) Your boxperson is correct, they
were paid for separately. If the player had pressed the bet before the dice
rolled he must pay an additional $3 because the bet would be $100.
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If I may, I
have a quick question: I know that it is always correct to cut change with
the 'inside' hand when change involves a single color. Vic's book states
that it is 'always' proper to use the 'inside' hand when cutting change, and
I would assume that the fact the change may involve two or three colors is
irrelevant. Thus the 'inside' hand is always the correct procedure. My
question to you: Is it 'ever' proper to use both hands (inside, outside)
when change involves two or more colors. I know what the 'book' states, but
I have also seen many professional dealers using both hands when cutting
multiple color change for the sake of convenience. I appreciate your time
and thank you for any information you could provide in this subtle issue.
As a break-in
dealer you should use your inside hand only if you are 'running stacks down'-
Let's say the player buys in for fifty dollars, you can use your inside hand to
cut $45 (red) and your outside to pick five $1 chips thus using both hands.
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Scott, can
you settle a wager? I say when you pay the dont pass you should pay
the odds first then the flat bet and my dealing friend claims it doesn't
matter, you simply pay what ever bet is first. Who is right?
You sir are
correct, you should always set the odds bet on the dont pass so that it's the
first bet that gets paid followed by the flat bet.
They don't want
you to turn your shoulder away from the player next to base because when you do
that you're exposing your working stacks and the player is given the chance to
past post bets. I don't teach that in school.
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For those
of you who don't know the term 'cross firing' - it's when dealers talk amongst
themselves on a live game. The big deal is this, you should only talk
about game related issues while you are dealing. You are working in the customer
service industry. This means customers come first. Lets put it this way, have
you ever stood in line at the grocery store waiting for your turn to check out
and some stupid ass checker is talking about her date last night to the checker
at the next register? Or perhaps you're in a bar and you want another beer and
the bartender is busy bull shitin with the cocktail waitress. In both cases you
- the paying customer - perhaps in a hurry are put on hold while they they have
their little chit chat. While you're on the game you should give the players
your undivided attention. Like it or not, customers (players) come first. Don't
look at this issue as a negative.
Simply imagine
that what ever the 'die' is leaning against is a piece of ice. If the ice melts
....what number would it land on?
I knew this was
coming. Believe me,
when the 'shit hits the fan' with big money all over the layout "they" deal the
game with absolute text book procedures. When they audition for a job "they" deal
the game with absolute text book procedures. (Most of the time) When you watch these guys deal a
'regular game' they seem a little lazy perhaps but you need not worry about
them. Worry about YOU. Don't give into 'peer laziness' as I call it, where you
see one dealer skip a few corners thereby YOU do the same. Deal the game the
same way all the time regardless if it's a routine bullshit game or when it's
busy. I've seen plenty of dealers not pass an audition because they dealt with
bad habits they developed. Stay away from all of this. Again,
deal the game with absolute dealing procedures at all times thereby you will not
have to think of what of what your supposed to do when it gets busy of your
dealing during an audition.
Each and every
craps dealer wanted to quit at some point in the beginning of their dice dealing
career. Myself, I wanted to quit many times. If you hear some dealer tell you otherwise, they are lying! It's going
to be a little rough on you at first because your just learning and you are
dealing with peoples money. There is no room for error when it comes to money.
Just hang in there and try to do deal to the best of your ability, listen and
learn and in time
everything will work out. I know it sounds like a stupid cliché but
it's true....Quitters never win and winners never quit! Furthermore,
Atlantic City develops some very good dice dealers. I think it's because your
players are very knowledgeable compared to most of ours. Most of the AC trained
dealers here in Vegas seem to have decent dealing skills. Just hang in
there my brother, your learning how to deal in a great casino.
Yes, from what
I hear, the hardways are off on the come out. I wish Vegas would do this.
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Customer
service, customer service, customer service. That's all we hear all day long
and now YOU are trying to hammer it home! This is gambling not a restaurant.
I hand off their come bets, I'm not rude, what the hell?
Take some
good advice and go on vacation. Get out of town and stay in a nice hotel. Go eat
and drink and have some fun. Seriously. The only way to understand what customer
service means is to enjoy it yourself "on the other side of the
fence". There is nothing better in life than to be treated with
service......good service. Nobody can teach you how to treat people. Go on
vacation and see what it's like. I'll bet you'll come back with a whole new
perspective. Oh and by the way, handing off come bets is not customer
service.
If you feel you
still need some 'basic live game training' try the Plaza, Golden Gate or the Las
Vegas Club. Coast resorts, Barbary and Gold Coast will hire you out of the
Cortez, odds are slim the SunCoast or Orleans will hire you unless you're an
above average break-in with good hands and tremendous confidence. The Boyd Group
Casinos, Fremont, California and Main Street Station Downtown or Sam's Town on
the East side would be a good choice. Those three downtown casinos will throw
some big Hawaiian action your way so be ready! You also have the Primm Casinos
at Stateline which could take you into MGM/MIRAGE properties
and you may want to check out Slots-a-Fun and Westward Ho next to Circus Circus
or O'sheys next to the Flamingo. You may also want to try either of the Arizona Charlie's
casinos or even the Stratosphere and Sahara. Any of these casinos would be a
good choice for they all are very good at training dice dealers at the intermediate
level. Station Casinos generally want at least one year experience but have been
known to take a break-in now and then but like the SunCoast or Orleans you
better be prepared. Any lump can get a job, but only a dealer can keep one.
It sure doesn't
hurt. Most dealers think you need to know the casino manager or a shift boss or
something but that's not always the case. I've known more dealers get a good gig
through the recommendation from "other dealers" more so than someone
helping you that wears a suit. Let's say you are a shift manager or the pit boss
and it's your job to hire a craps dealer. You have in front of you thirty or so
employment applications and you will need to go through the audition process for
each. This will be time consuming. Now let's say a dealer comes up to you and
says that a buddy he went to school with and worked with for a couple of years
needs a job and is a very good dealer, very good with the customers, excellent
communication skills, great hands, bla bla bla. Would you give this person
seeking employment a shot? Or would you rather go through those thirty applications?
You see it's called the buddy system and it works. The person recommending his
buddy should be decent dealer with established creditability and the buddy
should be able to deliver as promised. If those two elements are in place then
we have a dealer who will get hired with "juice." Years ago When
I was breaking into craps I sucked! There was this dealer, he had been dealing
craps for about nine years and he was just incredible to watch. He dealt a clean
game, booked all of his bets, audible stick calls with no problem. Ask him what
time it is and it would take him 10 minutes to tell you. This dealer
stuttered. Anyway he was a great help. He showed me the ropes. As the years pass
I got a good dealing gig on the strip and because of his stuttering problem he
remained behind. Little hard to convince an employer that you're a good dealer
if you stutter. Anyway I tried in vain to get this guy a job where I worked. At
first my shift manager was very reluctant but invariably gave him a shot. He has
been working on the strip for five years now. The guy that helped me in the beginning
was something I never forgot. It was a pleasure to help him. The moral of the
story is this. Don't be an asshole! What goes around ......comes around. You are
only going to get a "juice" job if someone likes you.
Years ago I had
this oriental gal in the school learning dice. She was having problems learning
the game and most of her fellow students thought of her as some Chinese bitch
that was dumb as hell. There was also three students that helped her understand
craps and took her under their wings. She was a very determined young lady. She
wanted to learn to deal dice and invariably she did! To make a long story short
she had already been a dealer, she had already learned all the card games, roulette
and even tiles. She actually quit her job to learn dice and go downtown to the
El Cortez like everyone else. You see, she spoke seven different languages
and in time learned to deal ALL the games. She landed a "high limit
room" dealing gig at a MAJOR resort before she was promoted to Casino Host. She brought with her multi game
knowledge and communication skills and she also brought three young crap dealers with
her. She too never forgot.
If I we're a casino manager
wouldn't it make sense to hire dice dealers and 'cross train' them into dealing
cards? This way when the casino wanted a dice dealer all we would have to do is
go and pull you off a BJ game rather than go through the hiring and audition
process. For this reason you need to learn BJ. Resort casinos want MULTI GAME
DEALERS!
Welcome to the
casino business. We all go through this and it's not just the break in casino,
this little dilemma is found in every casino. When I was a break in dealer I
remember one boxperson wanted me to cap come bets "thereby keeping the bet
and payoff together" as he would say and another boxperson would come
flying out of his chair when I did that on his game. The bottom line is this,
the boxperson is you supervisor and is responsible for anything that goes wrong.
If they want you to do certain things a curtain way, then do it - and if another
wants things done another way then do it their way. Simple. Make adjustments as
they come. And another thing, the boxperson must adjust to a particular pit
manager as they in turn must adjust to different shift managers. It's not just
the dealer that goes through this.
You make your
own decision. Let me tell you two stories about giving advice: Years ago a young
dealer came to me at the school seeking my advice about which job he should
take. His options we're the soon to open Hard Rock Hotel and Casino and the Monte
Carlo Hotel and Casino both here in Las Vegas. Believe it or not I
"advised" him to take the Monte Carlo because the "Hard Rock will
probably be a casino that caters to the young gambler and you will probably not
make as much money, therefore the Monte Carlo would be the better choice"
As it turned out the Hard Rock is one of the best paying jobs in Las Vegas and
the Monte Carlo is somewhere in the middle of the pack. In hindsight that was terrible
advice. I don't think anyone could have predicted how the Hard Rock would
fare.
The second
story was a young man seeking my advice about a promotion to box after a year of
dealing and I told him to "go for it" then one day he ended up getting
fired after five years sitting box. When he went job hunting he ran into a dilemma.
He had only one year dealing experience and the strip casino wanted 3-5 years experience.
That casino wasn't looking for a supervisor, they we're seeking an experienced
dealer. They auditioned him anyway and of course he failed. He may have had six
years experience in the dice pit but remember, he only had one year of actual
dealing experience. He currently deals in a small casino downtown. What he
should have done and perhaps you should do is deal the games for five years
before donning the suit. In my case I dealt for 6 1/2 years before the suit,
thus if I get fired tonight when I go to work I can seek a dealing job tomorrow
in the larger resorts and have the confidence and ability to pass an audition.
It's easier to supervise games than it is to deal them.
- I'm a break in Craps dealer downtown. I
didn't go to your school, but can you tell me why that my instructor yelled
and screamed at me like I'm some_______idiot, then I go to work and
the bosses treat me like shit, fellow Craps dealers laugh at me when I'm
trying to learn (they have all but a month experience) players treat me like
shit, and I hear about this website of yours that may be able help my math, and
you want to call me a "Lump" and build this stupid game that
will insult me and throw me out if I click on the wrong answer?
THIS IS THE RUDEST
BUSINESS I'VE EVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH!
We are cannibals. We love to eat our own. Lets
just call it tradition. Believe me, you'll understand once you learn how to
deal.
Until then you may want to
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for I have just the thing for you.
- I am a dealer in Tunica,
MS. I have had a hard time getting dice time. I've

been dealing for 3 years and because I don't get dice time I am still a break-in
dice dealer. They think dice is only a man's game down
here in the South. Is this the way it is at all casino's? I haven't given
up yet, but it is getting old.
Is it a man's game? Hell no,
it's not a man's game. It cracks me up when a guy thinks like that it only means
that his ego is threatened by a female. There was a time when all dealers here
in Las Vegas we're men. It wasn't until the 70's that girls started entering the
casino business and much later when 'she' found herself behind a craps table.
Even to this day the female dice dealer is somewhat a pioneer. You are still stereotyped
to a degree. As an instructor in a dealing school I see more and more women entering
the business as a craps dealer each year. I see more and more women supervisors
in the dice pits each year. Where I work at NYNY three of our shift managers are
women and the Mandaley Bay and MGM Grand two of the largest resorts in the world
now have female casino managers! As far as your concerned in Tunica it may be
that they are to busy for live game training and perhaps you should stay an hour after work on
graveyard and deal a little bit or come in early if your working day shift. The
Graveyard dice pit would be the best place to get your feet wet.
- I'm a break in dealer at
the El Cortez and they say that most of the craps dealers started here. (I'm
having a rough time with these people) Any advice? Also the other dealers
here say you have a personal interest in Las Vegas history, can you tell me
about Mr. Gaughan the owner?
Yes it's true
that the Cortez is the most famous break in house for craps dealers in all
of the gambling world and has been for many decades since the days of "Bugsy"
Siegal El Cortez Don't quit
this job because it's to tough. The El Cortez is a considered a boot camp
for break in dealers. With respects to dealing dice you will learn lessons there
that will be with you your entire career. I have known dealers that have quit or
have been fired there that have had a very difficult time landing a job for the
sole reason that the pit manager that interviewed the dealer didn't quit when he
broke in at the Cortez many years ago thus you will be branded as an undesirable.
About Mr.
Gaughan, he is a Las Vegas legend! We learn from his website that his first
glimpse of the city was in 1943 as a soldier based at the Las Vegas Airbase, to
his current status overseeing the Downtown Las Vegas Casino empire he built,
owns and operates, he has been enamored with the "City of Lights" he
calls home.
John D. "Jackie" Gaughan was born October 24, 1920 in Omaha, Nebraska
to Michael and Kitty Gaughan. As a boy, he had early exposure to gambling, since
his "Uncle" Eddie Barrick held an interest in a gambling house in
Omaha. He started out running scratch sheets to many of the bars and poolrooms
that took legitimate horse and sports bets. He particularly took to bookmaking,
which is still his favorite part of the business today.
Jackie Gaughan spent time in Nevada during World War II, first in Las Vegas and
later in Tonopah where he trained gunners for the Air Corps' B-17 bombers. He
and his wife Roberta (Bertie) and their two sons Michael and Jackie, Jr. settled
here for good in 1951. He bought a 3% interest in the old downtown Boulder Club
on Fremont Street where the Horseshoe now stands. Soon after he bought a 3%
interest in the Flamingo Hotel on the Strip, along with Eddie Barrick. Both
casinos found the young man to be particularly talented as a handicapper and
sports book operator.
Jackie's talent led to the operations such as the Saratoga and the Derby, both
sports books. In 1961, he opened the Las Vegas Club with Mel Exber and Larry
Hazlewood. In 1963 he bought the El Cortez on Fremont Street, a casino and hotel
that was once owned by none other than Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegal. With
innovative promotions such as Fun Books, free meals and Social Security contests
aimed at the locals and the value seeking customers, both The Las Vegas Club and
The El Cortez prospered.
Over the years Jackie has extended the same innovations to other hotels he has
built or bought, including the Western Hotel & Bingo Parlor in 1965, The
Union Plaza Hotel & Casino in 1971 and the Gold Spike Hotel & Casino in
1983. "Give the customers a good deal, and they'll come back," is the
Gaughan philosophy. And a good deal the customer gets. The Gaughan family of
properties has fed more folks free meals than any other hotels or casinos
anywhere. With room rates kept extremely low over the years, the percentage of
repeat customers is phenomenal. And they always bring other friends or relatives
with them to experience the same value. When you find a good thing, you usually
want to let others know about it. That's the key to Jackie Gaughan's success.
Again
don't quit this job. Nobody will respect you if you quit this job because it's
to tough. You are learning how to deal craps from the best training pit
managers in the business. Tony, Billy and Jonnie have been doing that job probably
longer than you've been alive. Learn as much as you can and you will know when
the day comes that you feel you're ready to venture to a larger property.
Remember this; no solder enjoyed boot camp in the military, however, when it was
all said and done their survival in battle was dependant upon those lessons
learned in that boot camp. Same theory holds true in the casino business.


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