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One third of the daily messages in my inbox will be someone asking me for advice on all kinds of issues and problems that one encounters as they are learning or entering the casino business. As I mentioned in the introduction page of the site...

I'm NOT an expert!

  On the other hand, I have yet to meet one. Everyone in this business has their own opinion on what is right and wrong about dealing craps. In fact you can't even get two craps dealers to agree on anything related to dealing the game. Just because I'm a casino games instructor doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable than the next guy. Anyone that has been in the business for a couple of years can teach students how to deal casino craps. The only prerequisites you would need is to have is a tremendous amount of patience and a good sense of humor. This is not rocket science we're talking about here. What I will try to do is give you an opinion. I will answer the most common questions you have and with some luck you may have a better perspective on some issues and of course I in turn will have a smaller mail box.  My most important opinion is that you should take pride in what you do. You should try to be the best at what you do. If you are a student in a dealing school you should try to learn to the best of your ability. If you are a break-in dealer and you feel you are not the best dealer in the casino then try to be the best 'break-in dealer'. 




  • "I'm a break in craps dealer here in Las Vegas and I'm having second thoughts about this game. If all the dealers split the tips why should I or anyone else go through this bullshit of learning craps when blackjack is so much easier? And another thing, the BJ students get to break in at casinos such as the Gold Coast and all the craps dealers must go downtown. They learned an easy game and make more money than we do!!!!"

Believe it or not Blackjack is not as easy as it looks. It's just as stressful for BJ dealers and craps dealers alike. There are very few good BJ dealers. But that's another story. Major strip resorts want multi game dealers. Most resorts have no problem teaching a craps dealer how to deal on live card games but are very reluctant on teaching craps in a casino for obvious reasons. Dealing dice is not the hardest game to deal, it is only the hardest game to learn. What that really means is this, pay the price of learning craps first and each and every card game will be easy to learn in the future. Most agree that it is less taxing to "cross train" craps dealers  than card dealers.  Most agree that craps dealers only need to know multi deck shoe BJ anyway. Don't be discouraged, learn dice and learn to deal well. Learn to deal shoe BJ at the same time and invariably everything will fall into place just as you want. A good craps dealer can always find employment faster than a dealer that only deals blackjack. Blackjack dealers are a dime a dozen.  Besides, you'll find out soon enough that dealing dice is the only fun game to deal anyway.


  • Question for you Scott. A player has the four and ten bought for
    fifty each- one of them hits. He tells you to press both to $100. Does he
    owe $7 or $8 for the vig? My thought is- $5 for the one that hit, and since
    the other now warrants a five dollar vig, two of which are already paid
    for... the vig should be eight. Right? I was told by my box that since they
    were paid for separately, the player doesn't owe the extra dollar, but since
    when does the house give commission on twenty bucks free of charge?


Apparently you must take the vig 'up front' therefore in your case the answer is indeed $7 only because the dice had rolled (the transaction is over) Your boxperson is correct, they were paid for separately. If the player had pressed the bet before the dice rolled he must pay an additional $3 because the bet would be $100. 


  • If I may, I have a quick question: I know that it is always correct to cut change with the 'inside' hand when change involves a single color. Vic's book states that it is 'always' proper to use the 'inside' hand when cutting change, and I would assume that the fact the change may involve two or three colors is irrelevant. Thus the 'inside' hand is always the correct procedure. My question to you: Is it 'ever' proper to use both hands (inside, outside) when change involves two or more colors. I know what the 'book' states, but I have also seen many professional dealers using both hands when cutting multiple color change for the sake of convenience. I appreciate your time and thank you for any information you could provide in this subtle issue.

As a break-in dealer you should use your inside hand only if you are 'running stacks down'- Let's say the player buys in for fifty dollars, you can use your inside hand to cut $45 (red) and your outside to pick five $1 chips thus using both hands.


  • Scott, can you settle a wager? I say when you pay the dont pass you should pay the odds first then the flat bet and my dealing friend claims it doesn't matter, you simply pay what ever bet is first. Who is right?

You sir are correct, you should always set the odds bet on the dont pass so that it's the first bet that gets paid followed by the flat bet.


  • I was taught in dice school that all payoffs are made with the outside hand. My supervisors here in the casino want players 1 & 2 paid with the inside hand? They won't tell me why.

They don't want you to turn your shoulder away from the player next to base because when you do that you're exposing your working stacks and the player is given the chance to past post bets. I don't teach that in school. 


  • What is a buffalo bet. Is it all the hardways and a 'Yo or all the hardways and a seven?

CLICK HERE AND YOU SHALL SEE


  • What is the big deal about "cross firing" on a game? My pit boss came unglued on us the other night. What's the big deal?

For those of you who don't know the term 'cross firing' - it's when dealers talk  amongst themselves on a live game. The big deal is this,  you should only talk about game related issues while you are dealing. You are working in the customer service industry. This means customers come first. Lets put it this way, have you ever stood in line at the grocery store waiting for your turn to check out and some stupid ass checker is talking about her date last night to the checker at the next register? Or perhaps you're in a bar and you want another beer and the bartender is busy bull shitin with the cocktail waitress. In both cases you - the paying customer - perhaps in a hurry are put on hold while they they have their little chit chat. While you're on the game you should give the players your undivided attention. Like it or not, customers (players) come first. Don't look at this issue as a negative. 


  • I have trouble understanding a 'cocked die' and how it should be called. Box says 'high side' always. What is talking about?

Simply imagine that what ever the 'die' is leaning against is a piece of ice. If the ice melts ....what number would it land on?


  • You emphasize our Checque handling and dealing procedures, but when I go watch dealers in the big casinos how come they don't deal the game the way we were taught? Let me see you publish this question on your site.

I knew this was coming. Believe me, when the 'shit hits the fan' with big money all over the layout "they" deal the game with absolute text book procedures. When they audition for a job "they" deal the game with absolute text book procedures. (Most of the time) When you watch these guys deal a 'regular game' they seem a little lazy perhaps but you need not worry about them. Worry about YOU. Don't give into 'peer laziness' as I call it, where you see one dealer skip a few corners thereby YOU do the same. Deal the game the same way all the time regardless if it's a routine bullshit game or when it's busy. I've seen plenty of dealers not pass an audition because they dealt with bad habits they developed.  Stay away from all of this. Again, deal the game with absolute dealing procedures at all times thereby you will not have to think of what of what your supposed to do when it gets busy of your dealing during an audition. 


  • Scott, when you broke into the business did you want to quit? I'm dealing here at the _______ in Atlantic City and I'm getting my ass kicked! I don't think I'm cut out for this shit!!!

Each and every craps dealer wanted to quit at some point in the beginning of their dice dealing career. Myself, I wanted to quit many times. If you hear some dealer tell you otherwise, they are lying! It's going to be a little rough on you at first because your just learning and you are dealing with peoples money. There is no room for error when it comes to money. Just hang in there and try to do deal to the best of your ability, listen and learn and in time everything will work out. I know it sounds like a stupid cliché but it's true....Quitters never win and winners never quit! Furthermore, Atlantic City develops some very good dice dealers. I think it's because your players are very knowledgeable compared to most of ours. Most of the AC trained dealers here in Vegas seem to have decent dealing skills. Just hang in there my brother, your learning how to deal in a great casino. 


  • Is it true that in Atlantic City the hardways are automatically 'off' unless called 'on' during the come out roll?

Yes, from what I hear, the hardways are off on the come out. I wish Vegas would do this.


  • Customer service, customer service, customer service. That's all we hear all day long and now YOU are trying to hammer it home! This is gambling not a restaurant. I hand off their come bets, I'm not rude, what the hell? 

 Take some good advice and go on vacation. Get out of town and stay in a nice hotel. Go eat and drink and have some fun. Seriously. The only way to understand what customer service means is to enjoy it yourself "on the other side of the fence". There is nothing better in life than to be treated with service......good service. Nobody can teach you how to treat people. Go on vacation and see what it's like. I'll bet you'll come back with a whole new perspective. Oh and by the way, handing off come bets is not customer service. 


  • Scott, what are the easiest jobs to get when I feel I'm ready to leave the El Cortez?

If you feel you still need some 'basic live game training' try the Plaza, Golden Gate or the Las Vegas Club. Coast resorts, Barbary and Gold Coast will hire you out of the Cortez, odds are slim the SunCoast or Orleans will hire you unless you're an above average break-in with good hands and tremendous confidence. The Boyd Group Casinos, Fremont, California and Main Street Station Downtown or Sam's Town on the East side would be a good choice. Those three downtown casinos will throw some big Hawaiian action your way so be ready! You also have the Primm Casinos at Stateline which could take you into MGM/MIRAGE properties and you may want to check out Slots-a-Fun and Westward Ho next to Circus Circus or O'sheys next to the Flamingo. You may also want to try either of the Arizona Charlie's casinos or even the Stratosphere and Sahara. Any of these casinos would be a good choice for they all are very good at training dice dealers at the intermediate level. Station Casinos generally want at least one year experience but have been known to take a break-in now and then but like the SunCoast or Orleans you better be prepared. Any lump can get a job, but only a dealer can keep one.


  • They tell me you need "juice" to get a good job in Las Vegas. True?

It sure doesn't hurt. Most dealers think you need to know the casino manager or a shift boss or something but that's not always the case. I've known more dealers get a good gig through the recommendation from "other dealers" more so than someone helping you that wears a suit. Let's say you are a shift manager or the pit boss and it's your job to hire a craps dealer. You have in front of you thirty or so employment applications and you will need to go through the audition process for each. This will be time consuming. Now let's say a dealer comes up to you and says that a buddy he went to school with and worked with for a couple of years needs a job and is a very good dealer, very good with the customers, excellent communication skills, great hands, bla bla bla. Would you give this person seeking employment a shot? Or would you rather go through those thirty applications? You see it's called the buddy system and it works. The person recommending his buddy should be decent dealer with established creditability and the buddy should be able to deliver as promised. If those two elements are in place then we have a dealer who will get hired with "juice."  Years ago When I was breaking into craps I sucked! There was this dealer, he had been dealing craps for about nine years and he was just incredible to watch. He dealt a clean game, booked all of his bets, audible stick calls with no problem. Ask him what time it is and it would take him 10 minutes to tell you.  This dealer stuttered. Anyway he was a great help. He showed me the ropes. As the years pass I got a good dealing gig on the strip and because of his stuttering problem he remained behind. Little hard to convince an employer that you're a good dealer if you stutter. Anyway I tried in vain to get this guy a job where I worked. At first my shift manager was very reluctant but invariably gave him a shot. He has been working on the strip for five years now. The guy that helped me in the beginning was something I never forgot. It was a pleasure to help him. The moral of the story is this. Don't be an asshole! What goes around ......comes around. You are only going to get a "juice" job if someone likes you.

Years ago I had this oriental gal in the school learning dice. She was having problems learning the game and most of her fellow students thought of her as some Chinese bitch that was dumb as hell. There was also three students that helped her understand craps and took her under their wings. She was a very determined young lady. She wanted to learn to deal dice and invariably she did! To make a long story short she had already been a dealer, she had already learned all the card games, roulette and even tiles. She actually quit her job to learn dice and go downtown to the El Cortez like everyone else. You see, she spoke seven different languages and in time learned to deal ALL the games. She landed a "high limit room" dealing gig at a MAJOR resort before she was promoted to Casino Host. She brought with her multi game knowledge and communication skills and she also brought three young crap dealers with her. She too never forgot.



  • I hear rumors that the big casinos "stockpile" craps dealers in the Blackjack pits. Is this true? 

 If I we're a casino manager wouldn't it make sense to hire dice dealers and 'cross train' them into dealing cards? This way when the casino wanted a dice dealer all we would have to do is go and pull you off a BJ game rather than go through the hiring and audition process. For this reason you need to learn BJ. Resort casinos want MULTI GAME DEALERS!


  • Damm man! I'm just entering the business and when I deal, one boxman wants something done one way and another boxman wants the same thing done another way!!! This is driving me crazy!!!

Welcome to the casino business. We all go through this and it's not just the break in casino, this little dilemma is found in every casino. When I was a break in dealer I remember one boxperson wanted me to cap come bets "thereby keeping the bet and payoff together" as he would say and another boxperson would come flying out of his chair when I did that on his game. The bottom line is this, the boxperson is you supervisor and is responsible for anything that goes wrong. If they want you to do certain things a curtain way, then do it - and if another wants things done another way then do it their way. Simple. Make adjustments as they come. And another thing, the boxperson must adjust to a particular pit manager as they in turn must adjust to different shift managers. It's not just the dealer that goes through this. 


  • I've been dealing craps for eight months. The pit manager asked me to become a boxman. I don't know what to do. What's your advice?

You make your own decision. Let me tell you two stories about giving advice: Years ago a young dealer came to me at the school seeking my advice about which job he should take. His options we're the soon to open Hard Rock Hotel and Casino and the Monte Carlo Hotel and Casino both here in Las Vegas. Believe it or not I "advised" him to take the Monte Carlo because the "Hard Rock will probably be a casino that caters to the young gambler and you will probably not make as much money, therefore the Monte Carlo would be the better choice" As it turned out the Hard Rock is one of the best paying jobs in Las Vegas and the Monte Carlo is somewhere in the middle of the pack. In hindsight that was terrible advice. I don't think anyone could have predicted how the Hard Rock would fare. 

The second story was a young man seeking my advice about a promotion to box after a year of dealing and I told him to "go for it" then one day he ended up getting fired after five years  sitting box. When he went job hunting he ran into a dilemma. He had only one year dealing experience and the strip casino wanted 3-5 years experience.  That casino wasn't looking for a supervisor, they we're seeking an experienced dealer. They auditioned him anyway and of course he failed. He may have had six years experience in the dice pit but remember, he only had one year of actual dealing experience. He currently deals in a small casino downtown. What he should have done and perhaps you should do is deal the games for five years before donning the suit. In my case I dealt for 6 1/2 years before the suit, thus if I get fired tonight when I go to work I can seek a dealing job tomorrow in the larger resorts and have the confidence and ability to pass an audition. It's easier to supervise games than it is to deal them.  


  • I'm a break in Craps dealer downtown. I didn't go to your school, but can you tell me why that my instructor yelled and screamed at me like I'm  some_______idiot, then I go to work and the bosses treat me like shit, fellow Craps dealers laugh at me when I'm trying to learn (they have all but a month experience) players treat me like shit, and I hear about this website of yours that may be able help my math, and you want to call me a "Lump" and build this stupid game that will insult me and throw me out if I click on the wrong answer?  

THIS IS THE RUDEST BUSINESS I'VE EVER BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH!

We are cannibals. We love to eat our own. Lets just call it tradition. Believe me, you'll understand once you learn how to deal.  

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  • I am a dealer in Tunica, MS.  I have had a hard time getting dice time.  I've
    been dealing for 3 years and because I don't get dice time I am still a break-in dice dealer.  They think dice is only a man's game down here in the South.  Is this the way it is at all casino's?  I haven't given up yet, but it is getting old.

Is it a man's game? Hell no, it's not a man's game. It cracks me up when a guy thinks like that it only means that his ego is threatened by a female. There was a time when all dealers here in Las Vegas we're men. It wasn't until the 70's that girls started entering the casino business and much later when 'she' found herself behind a craps table. Even to this day the female dice dealer is somewhat a pioneer. You are still stereotyped to a degree. As an instructor in a dealing school I see more and more women entering the business as a craps dealer each year. I see more and more women supervisors in the dice pits each year. Where I work at NYNY three of our shift managers are women and the Mandaley Bay and MGM Grand two of the largest resorts in the world now have female casino managers! As far as your concerned in Tunica it may be that they are to busy for live game training and perhaps you should stay an hour after work on graveyard and deal a little bit or come in early if your working day shift. The Graveyard dice pit would be the best place to get your feet wet. 


  • I'm a break in dealer at the El Cortez and they say that most of the craps dealers started here. (I'm having a rough time with these people) Any advice? Also the other dealers here say you have a personal interest in Las Vegas history, can you tell me about Mr. Gaughan the owner?

Yes it's true that the Cortez is the most famous break in house for craps dealers in all of the gambling world and has been for many decades since the days of El Cortez"Bugsy" Siegal El Cortez Don't quit this job because it's to tough. The El Cortez is a considered a boot camp for break in dealers. With respects to dealing dice you will learn lessons there that will be with you your entire career. I have known dealers that have quit or have been fired there that have had a very difficult time landing a job for the sole reason that the pit manager that interviewed the dealer didn't quit when he broke in at the Cortez many years ago thus you will be branded as an undesirable. About Mr. Gaughan, he is a Las Vegas legend! We learn from his website that his first glimpse of the city was in 1943 as a soldier based at the Las Vegas Airbase, to his current status overseeing the Downtown Las Vegas Casino empire he built, owns and operates, he has been enamored with the "City of Lights" he calls home.

John D. "Jackie" Gaughan was born October 24, 1920 in Omaha, Nebraska to Michael and Kitty Gaughan. As a boy, he had early exposure to gambling, since his "Uncle" Eddie Barrick held an interest in a gambling house in Omaha. He started out running scratch sheets to many of the bars and poolrooms that took legitimate horse and sports bets. He particularly took to bookmaking, which is still his favorite part of the business today.
Jackie Gaughan spent time in Nevada during World War II, first in Las Vegas and later in Tonopah where he trained gunners for the Air Corps' B-17 bombers. He and his wife Roberta (Bertie) and their two sons Michael and Jackie, Jr. settled here for good in 1951. He bought a 3% interest in the old downtown Boulder Club on Fremont Street where the Horseshoe now stands. Soon after he bought a 3% interest in the Flamingo Hotel on the Strip, along with Eddie Barrick. Both casinos found the young man to be particularly talented as a handicapper and sports book operator.
Jackie's talent led to the operations such as the Saratoga and the Derby, both sports books. In 1961, he opened the Las Vegas Club with Mel Exber and Larry Hazlewood. In 1963 he bought the El Cortez on Fremont Street, a casino and hotel that was once owned by none other than Benjamin "Bugsy" Siegal. With innovative promotions such as Fun Books, free meals and Social Security contests aimed at the locals and the value seeking customers, both The Las Vegas Club and The El Cortez prospered.

Over the years Jackie has extended the same innovations to other hotels he has built or bought, including the Western Hotel & Bingo Parlor in 1965, The Union Plaza Hotel & Casino in 1971 and the Gold Spike Hotel & Casino in 1983. "Give the customers a good deal, and they'll come back," is the Gaughan philosophy. And a good deal the customer gets. The Gaughan family of properties has fed more folks free meals than any other hotels or casinos anywhere. With room rates kept extremely low over the years, the percentage of repeat customers is phenomenal. And they always bring other friends or relatives with them to experience the same value. When you find a good thing, you usually want to let others know about it. That's the key to Jackie Gaughan's success.

Again don't quit this job. Nobody will respect you if you quit this job because it's to tough. You are learning how to deal craps from the best training pit managers in the business. Tony, Billy and Jonnie have been doing that job probably longer than you've been alive. Learn as much as you can and you will know when the day comes that you feel you're ready to venture to a larger property. Remember this; no solder enjoyed boot camp in the military, however, when it was all said and done their survival in battle was dependant upon those lessons learned in that boot camp. Same theory holds true in the casino business.


 


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